Post by artanaro on May 9, 2006 8:13:23 GMT -5
The Rockall Plateau, a submerged fragment of continental crust, isolated when Greenland, N.America, and Europe split up when the North Atlantic opened up between 75 and 60 million years ago. Slightly larger than the isle of Ireland, at least down the the 1000 fathom line, the Rockall plateau is bounded to the south and west by steep slopes down to the mid – Atlantic, and to the east by the 3000 meter deep Rockall Trough that separates the plateau from Britain. The only part of the Plateau that pokes its head above the sea is Rockall, a spike of granite just 30 m by 25m standing just 19m proud of the ocean…
If we imagine that the Rockall plateau rose by 1000 fathoms so that the 1000 fathom line of the rockall plateau became a seashore, the plateau would become an underwater ‘island’, built of a series of highlands…off the southwestern coast of the plateau are mountains.”
From Science of Middle Earth by Henry Gee
According to some Celtic legends, it was "the last remnant of Brasil … the "Western Land of Eternal Youth" which was submerged by the Atlantic".
This reminds me of Numenor where it is said that the tip of meneltarma could still be seen above the water. Also on a map of numenor there are indeed a small mountainous region in the southwest of the island, and numenor itself en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NumenorEN.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall (has a pic)
its location relative to ireland : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockall_EEZ.jpg
If we surmise that the Misty mountains ran through Scandinavia, according to one theory, then that puts rockall in the right vicinity of Numenor
Heres the pic : www.therockalltimes.co.uk/rockall/map.jpg
more pics and stuff :
www.therockalltimes.co.uk/rockall/picture-gallery.html
Im gonna do some more scouring of texts to find info that can disprove or prove my theory.
According to another theory, the misty mountains went through the middle of europe as we see in this map :http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~lalaith/Tolkien/M-e_Euro.jpg
which would place Rockall to the northwest of middle earth but only 300 miles away from the mainland.
Rockall is indeed an extinct volcano as was(is?) Meneltarma.
From the Akallabeth we have :
"Among the Exiles many believed that the summit of the Meneltarma, the Pillar of Heaven, was not drowned for ever, but rose again above the waves, a lonely island lost in the great waters; for it had been a hallowed place, and even in the days of Sauron none had defiled it."
the rising and sinking of the summit of Meneltarma, can be easily explained by rising or falling water levels in the ocean, due to a variety of factors such as glaciation, glacial melts, storms, tides, etc.
Perhaps the reason that it wasnt above the water after the cataclysm is because the water level was higher in that particular area at that particular time and remained so for many generations of men.
Heres a link with pics of some who landed on the isle, gives a good sense of its size : www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2005/06/20/rockall-triumph.html
Perhaps a remnant of Numenor? I found this interesting ...What do you think?
If we imagine that the Rockall plateau rose by 1000 fathoms so that the 1000 fathom line of the rockall plateau became a seashore, the plateau would become an underwater ‘island’, built of a series of highlands…off the southwestern coast of the plateau are mountains.”
From Science of Middle Earth by Henry Gee
According to some Celtic legends, it was "the last remnant of Brasil … the "Western Land of Eternal Youth" which was submerged by the Atlantic".
This reminds me of Numenor where it is said that the tip of meneltarma could still be seen above the water. Also on a map of numenor there are indeed a small mountainous region in the southwest of the island, and numenor itself en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NumenorEN.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall (has a pic)
its location relative to ireland : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rockall_EEZ.jpg
If we surmise that the Misty mountains ran through Scandinavia, according to one theory, then that puts rockall in the right vicinity of Numenor
Heres the pic : www.therockalltimes.co.uk/rockall/map.jpg
more pics and stuff :
www.therockalltimes.co.uk/rockall/picture-gallery.html
Im gonna do some more scouring of texts to find info that can disprove or prove my theory.
According to another theory, the misty mountains went through the middle of europe as we see in this map :http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~lalaith/Tolkien/M-e_Euro.jpg
which would place Rockall to the northwest of middle earth but only 300 miles away from the mainland.
Rockall is indeed an extinct volcano as was(is?) Meneltarma.
From the Akallabeth we have :
"Among the Exiles many believed that the summit of the Meneltarma, the Pillar of Heaven, was not drowned for ever, but rose again above the waves, a lonely island lost in the great waters; for it had been a hallowed place, and even in the days of Sauron none had defiled it."
the rising and sinking of the summit of Meneltarma, can be easily explained by rising or falling water levels in the ocean, due to a variety of factors such as glaciation, glacial melts, storms, tides, etc.
Perhaps the reason that it wasnt above the water after the cataclysm is because the water level was higher in that particular area at that particular time and remained so for many generations of men.
Heres a link with pics of some who landed on the isle, gives a good sense of its size : www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2005/06/20/rockall-triumph.html
Perhaps a remnant of Numenor? I found this interesting ...What do you think?